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black male on the debt ceiling. ceiling does not taste do not spend more money. -- does not say do not spend more money. you cannot payy, the bills and have to pay the bills. otherwise the country defaults. you have to pay the bills. ceilingraised the debt 77 times since world war ii. in the end, you have a vote for it and everybody knew that. until now. if you increase the debt ceiling, you have to cut spending by an incredible amount over 10 years. they were going to make the false. -- to make as default for the congress voted for will $0.20 trillion specified in -- todeficias a percent of the eco. if you el ten del dollars on a credit card, as that a lot or a little? -- if you owe $10,000 on your credit card, is that a little or a lot? to look and how burdensome the debt is, you have to take a percentage is. we have reduced the debt as a from 10.1% togdp 5.3%. we have cut it in half. the fastest reduction in the deficit since the demobilization after world war ii. vote against the sequester. at the three have done what we need to do on the debt right now. -- i think we have done
to the senate democrats not having to pass a budget in four year. under the debt ceiling in january, if the senate does not pass a budget then the senators will have their paychecks with held. it this is obviously, politically a hot potato. for him he does want, very much to have a certain amount of co-sponsors as well and they are worried about the impact of air traffic controllers by sequestration that went into ffect on march 1 the $85 billion of the across the bored spending. >> the spending for the rest of fiscal year 2013, how quickly is the house likely to take that up and pass it? >> i spoke to the house appropriation chairman and he says it is likely, unless there is last-minute changes that he does not know about the house will quickly move to bring the c.r. unchanged to the senate's floor and the house can move with lightning speed compared to the senate. so i think the flight path is clear in the house assuming there is no big changes to the senate's c.r. at this point, we have to get through -- what looks like right now to a thursday vote on the senator for the c.r. >>
] >> two years ago when doug holtz-eakin and i were leading a discussion on the lifting of the debt ceiling, some other republicans who were there actually walked out of the room. this year we did not have that. more willing to listen. wing of theextreme tea party typically does not attend the harvard new members conferences. [laughter] >> among economists, is very significant debate about your estimate, and if so, what are would we bees that doing that we would be tangling with you on? >> that is a great question. the original estimates came back to us early on from a former student of mine who was working in the administration and who is a brilliant student from omb. he called me and said i have been tasked with setting up a committee to scrutinize all the numbers in your book and to discredit them. i just want to let you know that. i said ok, fine. he came back to me six months later and said i want to tell you we have been through the book with a fine tooth comb. we cannot discredit any of the numbers because they are all on our own numbers. we are going to argue that it was worth it. d
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